Alcatel TCL Flip 2 (T408DL)

Reifam Most of us will not know because only Tracfone is selling the phone, and it will be locked to their network until you use the phone with their service for 60 days, then the phone can be unlocked for use with other carriers. The phone just came out so we don't have any testimonials yet. Verizon bought Tracfone and Tracfone traditionally had phones that worked across all 3 of the different carriers (although your service would be with Tracfone, it may have used Verizon, T-Mobile or AT&T network), however Tracfone is slowly moving customers onto Verizon-only devices and SIMs that strictly use Verizon's network (my hypothesis is that Tracfone will become Verizon Prepaid one day).
For now, if you're looking for a T-Mobile version, check out the TCL Flip Go [Login to see the link] it is nearly identical to this.

This phone also uses the Kika 12key-keyboard which has a pretty bad T9 dictionary. Try to type "I'm" for instance, the only suggestions are in, go, etc. It would be really nice if this keyboard dictionary could be updated somehow

knopper If T-Mobile has a version and Cricket has a version, wouldn't that mean the TracFone one works with those towers?

Biden2020prez no not necessarily. For one they are different model numbers so the 2 carriers are not selling the same phone. Secondly, the LTE bands are different between the models. You need certain LTE bands such as band 71 to work well on T-Mobile. This band is not on the Tracfone model. Tracfone’s since shifted their focus to providing service that strictly connects to the Verizon network so the addition of band 71 is not a necessity on their phone. Hope this clear things up

knopper Yes, that clears things up. So if I get this phone unlocked, I can't use it on T-Mobile?

Pretty smart to have a decent unlock policy, but make customers forced to your network even after the phone is unlocked...

You probably can use it on t-mobile, but it just won't work as well, due to the missing bands

Biden2020prez My bad, I just looked into it again. The Tracfone version (model T408DL) actually has band 71, so is all set for T-Mobile. I had it the other way around....the T-Mobile version (model 4058W) does not have band 13, which is very important for Verizon (it's Verizon's low band that allows for better indoor coverage and better rural area coverage). So actually, the T-Mobile version would not be good to try to use unlocked on the Verizon network. However using the Tracfone version on T-Mobile would be fine in your and Reifam 's cases.

How can you see what bands are on the phone? Also, is there a list of what carriers use what bands?

Biden2020prez Both can be found online, just try searching for it.

lgexalter1 Please read this thread.

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lgexalter1 HAHA, I don't even know what that means. TCL doesn't use com.tcl very often. All the com.android apps were signed differently per phone. TCL uses package name of one or two apps com.tcl, one of those is camera. So I took the camera app from a TCL smartphone to see if it would install (not b/c I thought it would be a better camera app), and it didn't have the signatures issue, but it had the NO_MATCHING_ABIS issue.

Biden2020prez Right, that would make sense because it's signed by tcl (or tcl approved) but it's likely that the smartphone is running a different architecture (different phones have different architectures, some are armeabi-v7a Arm86-v8a x86 etc. It's basically the type of processor, there are different versions of every app for different processors, if it's the wrong one it may not install or may crash)

It's blocked in code using system properties, going to be very hard to get around even if the app is signed by alcatel

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lgexalter1 If I could install the settings APK from another phone (like LG can), it's exciting because I can try to allow APK installation. But there is no real maila of installing the camera APK, it was just an experiment.