Update 09/19/20: I have made a thread with custom ROMs and instructions how to install them, located here Update 09/09/22: @neutronscott Who has done the important work to hack this phone has a wiki with all the important information about this phone. His work can be found HERE , Update 09/01/22: Thanks to @neutronscott we now have the ability to install apps! Original Post: Does anyone have this phone? It looks different than the Alcatel My Flip 2 and the TCL My Flip2. According to Tracfones website it runs Android 11 and has more storage and ram than the My Flip. Is it the same thing or actually a new phone? Tips about this phone: Enable ADB: *#*#DEBUG#*#* ( *#*#33284#*#* ) Disable Apps with adb: Browser: adb shell pm disable-user --user 0 org.chromium.chrome Texting: adb shell pm disable-user --user 0 com.android.mms Secret Codes: Launcher list all apps: *#*#217703#*#* Barometer Calibration: *#*#1013#*#* Carrier Choose: *#*#22384#*#* Testing Settings *#*#73884647#*#* Enable APN editing: *#*#9663223#*#*

Very interesting. Doesn't look like Kaios, so I am assuming it's android. There is only a picture of the homescreen I not sure. I may get it, amazon $20 https://www.amazon.com/TracFone-Flip-Prepaid-Phone-Locked/dp/B09X7F2GCG I'm just scared it'll be super slow b/c it's alcatel

Biden2020prez Same thoughts. Although the Alcatel flip V which was Android for Verizon was significantly better than the KaiOs devices with the same hardware.

This may be a stupid question, but how can it be Alcatel and TCL?

I am very tempted to buy it... Im assuming I'll buy one. For the record, out of stock on tracfone, in stock on Amazon, and also in stock on total wireless for more expensive

I bought one. Will post back once I receive it and go through it...

I wonder if it would have this issue appsphoarflip (maybe someone can teach me how to properly quote)

Biden2020prez I dont think so. Its supposed to be running an AOSP Android 11 not Android Go.

darth From that post I can't tell what @appsphoarflip said Either: The schok is android 11 go, and all android 11 doesn't include the necessary apis. Or: The schok is android 11 go, and android 11 go doesn't include etc.

Alcatel TCL Flip 2 (T408DL)

knopper

This phone also uses the Kika 12key-keyboard which has a pretty bad T9 dictionary. Try to type "I'm" for instance, the only suggestions are in, go, etc. It would be really nice if this keyboard dictionary could be updated somehow

Biden2020prez

knopper If T-Mobile has a version and Cricket has a version, wouldn't that mean the TracFone one works with those towers?

knopper

Biden2020prez no not necessarily. For one they are different model numbers so the 2 carriers are not selling the same phone. Secondly, the LTE bands are different between the models. You need certain LTE bands such as band 71 to work well on T-Mobile. This band is not on the Tracfone model. Tracfone’s since shifted their focus to providing service that strictly connects to the Verizon network so the addition of band 71 is not a necessity on their phone. Hope this clear things up

Biden2020prez

knopper Yes, that clears things up. So if I get this phone unlocked, I can't use it on T-Mobile?

Pretty smart to have a decent unlock policy, but make customers forced to your network even after the phone is unlocked...

knopper

Biden2020prez My bad, I just looked into it again. The Tracfone version (model T408DL) actually has band 71, so is all set for T-Mobile. I had it the other way around....the T-Mobile version (model 4058W) does not have band 13, which is very important for Verizon (it's Verizon's low band that allows for better indoor coverage and better rural area coverage). So actually, the T-Mobile version would not be good to try to use unlocked on the Verizon network. However using the Tracfone version on T-Mobile would be fine in your and Reifam 's cases.

mr-mayor

You probably can use it on t-mobile, but it just won't work as well, due to the missing bands

Biden2020prez

How can you see what bands are on the phone? Also, is there a list of what carriers use what bands?

Techgen

Biden2020prez Both can be found online, just try searching for it.

Reifam

knopper Is the T-Mobile one and Tracfone one, the same software?

knopper

Reifam Technically no, the Tracfone one has a Tracfone bootup screen, so there are going to be some customizations. However both are Android 11 and probably have a lot of similarities in the tools, apps and settings. I don't own the T-Mobile version though to really be able to confirm.

darth

Does anyone have any other versions of this phone (with android):
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on [Login to see the link] website, seems to have only 4gb ROM 512mb RAM
TCL Classic, From [Login to see the link]
TCL Flip Go, From [Login to see the link]
TCL Flip Go, From [Login to see the link]

Biden2020prez

lgexalter1 Please read this thread.

Biden2020prez and

Biden2020prez

lgexalter1 HAHA, I don't even know what that means. TCL doesn't use com.tcl very often. All the com.android apps were signed differently per phone. TCL uses package name of one or two apps com.tcl, one of those is camera. So I took the camera app from a TCL smartphone to see if it would install (not b/c I thought it would be a better camera app), and it didn't have the signatures issue, but it had the NO_MATCHING_ABIS issue.

Techgen

Biden2020prez Right, that would make sense because it's signed by tcl (or tcl approved) but it's likely that the smartphone is running a different architecture (different phones have different architectures, some are armeabi-v7a Arm86-v8a x86 etc. It's basically the type of processor, there are different versions of every app for different processors, if it's the wrong one it may not install or may crash)

darth

lgexalter1
armeabi-v7a

processor : 0 Processor : ARMv7 Processor rev 4 (v7l) model name : ARMv7 Processor rev 4 (v7l) BogoMIPS : 40.08 Features : half thumb fastmult vfp edsp neon vfpv3 tls vfpv4 idiva idivt vfpd32 lpae evtstrm aes pmull sha1 sha2 crc32 CPU implementer : 0x41 CPU architecture: 7 CPU variant : 0x0 CPU part : 0xd03 CPU revision : 4

Hardware : MT6739CH

Apps4Flip-Admin

It's blocked in code using system properties, going to be very hard to get around even if the app is signed by alcatel

Apps4Flip-Admin

Our developers are working around the clock on a solution!

Biden2020prez

Apps4Flip-Admin We really appreciate it!

lgexalter1 If I could install the settings APK from another phone (like LG can), it's exciting because I can try to allow APK installation. But there is no real maila of installing the camera APK, it was just an experiment.

darth

Biden2020prez If you open files with
am start com.android.documentsui/com.android.documentsui.ViewDownloadsActivity
and you select on an apk it opens the installer and asks if you want to install from unknown sources and gives you the option to click continue, which than proceeds to try to install the app, it ends off with message 'App not installed'. So I dont know what you would gain by putting on a different settings app.

lgexalter1 [Login to see the link] is the system/framework folder

Biden2020prez

lgexalter1

darth I can disable apps: adb shell pm disable-user --user 0 org.chromium.chrome
Disables the browser.

lgexalter1 How do I figure out the architecture?

darth True, in general a smartphone settings app would be nice to have because it'll include more capabilities.

di2020

darth after the update that no longer seems to work

Apps4Flip-Admin

It was a tracfone one. The issue is that the property is not set, meaning if it would be set to true then package installation would be allowed.

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