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LOL. Nice, great investigating. Cool Stuff you did. I honestly would have given up then and there, I wouldn't have had that creativity. I approve of it.
You can thank my boredom.
@EVERYONE In terms of born kosher, it seems like people aren't arguing on "kosher", but they are arguing on "born"
To quote what I said earlier:
but like I said before, it's kicking a dead horse by now, nobody really cares about defining it, or at least I don't.
But apparently I was wrong, people do care, so whatever. Anyway...
When the FIG company first receives the phone, I don't know what it looks like (well, I know a bit, but not sure I can share it here).
It looks like the images on the FIG website. They don't really do anything to the phone. All the fig branding and the mold, color , etc. is obviously done by the manufacturer, as stated previously.
Whether they get it with a browser or not, they aren't using that rom. They are building AOSP in a safe and kosher way (custom rom).
See, here is where I differ based off the conversation I had with Mr Jeff Li (who speaks a near perfect English, mind you). Mr. Li told me that the fig company asked them (the manufacturer, Shenzhen Qimei) to remove the browser and app installer from the device, like I said in a previous post. If so, the "aosp" isn't really built or made by them, rather the aosp made by the manufacturer is customized to not include a browser, app installer, or whatever fig wanted them to remove (or install). Regardless, there's not that much of a difference between the two.
Not including partitions that allow device flashing (at least not without some sort of verification - i.e. firehose)
Not including a developer options activity in the settings app
Not including a usb deugging popup in the phone systemui app
Not including a functioning package installer
Very Likely, not including certain hardware parts which allow flashing.
have a Very safe and limited recovery
Don't support GSI Flashing or DSU Sideloading
Doesn't include apps with in-app browsers,etc.
I would call this a custom OS (building LineagoOS is already called custom Rom, this is even more).
In regards to the recovery mode and ADB commands, Mr. Li told me they were "disabled"(whatever that means), and that they were removed in software.
There are apps on there (e.g. waze) which by default have issues, and need to be filtered. There are many tools to do this in a strong manner., especially when building AOSP from scratch. They probably have many protections, so even if someone managed to get around some things, there would be other ways to block that. They probably also have some remote access to patch things if needed (does this phone get system updates by the way?)
I'm not sure what you mean by the end, if there is remote access to patch "issues", isn't that essentially a system update? Also I'm not even sure "remote access patching" is possible (or plausible). But you sound more knowledgeable about this than me, so I'll trust you.
So, I guess this get into a very complicated Sugya of abortion. When is the phone considered born? Is it murdering the phone to put a custom build of AOSP if the chinese sent it with a browser 🙂? Do we say their phone their choice? What about by vaccines, do we say their phone their choice? But, point is, many politics involved.
Ask your L.O.R. about this, or your local T.A.G., whichever one you want, lol.
In terms of making a phone based off a fully new operating system, I agree with
[Login to see the link] lets be honest that is a very far fetched dream, I cannot begin to imagine the money and recourses this would require.
That would be like building windows, building android, etc. And even Android is based off Linux. And KaiOS, which is custom for flips, is based off linux.
Agree with this too.
And finally...
