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  • TechgenLevel 6 - Platinum Elite Member

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doctorman I was referring the the kosher F21 that used to be sold by FIG (they don't sell it anymore, prob due to the many issues) you can get it non kosher from Ali express, but I don't recommend it, it can be hard to kasher after.

The F30 is kind of a made up name (for a F21 with added bands) by pure talk who is offering a kosher one, I don't know if a non kosher version was ever released. You can read more about it in [Login to see the link]
There was much discussion elsewhere on the forum about the FIG flip coming from China, but no-one was able to get a hold of a non fig version. As far as I know the sunbeam phone is proprietary so you won't find it on Ali.

And as [Login to see the link] said, I would strongly discourage trying to self filter any of these full Android phones, there are inevitably going to be loopholes, and even though it might be good enough for you, it won't be good enough for a teen who will have hours on end to play around with it.

      Techgen I hear you... I had kaspersky on full smart phone android and it randomly crashes and leaves everything open..
      safest choise seams to be a small less enjoyable/addictive flip with smaller screen

      spoke with alibaba Qmei (Qin) manufacture,
      F21 pro global version doe snot have US bands, F30 is the same F21 pro with bands activated and filtered
      F22 and F22 global are upgrades to F21/F30
      F22 has no camera and there is a US version released by march
      F22 Pro will have camera and US version will be out in 6-9 months

      the sunbeam flip and Fig 1 flip are both customized ... but there is a US version of on aliexpress MTK but with 1G ram and 8 gb rom only , there will be Fig 2 like model in aliexpress by the end of the year I expect

        The kyocera dura xv you can buy brand new on ebay for 160 or like new for about 100 and they last usually for a few years so its a good investment and the only secure filter is one that a organization like tag or meshimer etc puts on for u because if u remove the browser via ADB it can be restored by resetting the phone besides for the fact that almost any app can be added to the phone and be hidden well too, for the Kyocera u can use us mobile which has unlimited talk and text for 14 dollars a month. Regarding the sunbeam, in my opinion, DO NOT BUY my wife had it and I had it replaced by warranty and the second one broke too kept on crashing and very not sturdy phone a other option is LG classic which tracphone has refurbished for $15! but its locked to tracphone for 12 months and after like 6 months or so the keypad becomes blown up and it becomes hard to type and their service is a little expensive $25 a month for talk and text and I think 1 Gb of data and that phone can be filtered as well

        For T-mobile (or Tello which is the cheapest service provider I think, and they have international calling free to 60 countries and they run on T-mobile) you need a gsm volte-voice over lte compatible phone which there aren't any great options in flipphones that are volte compatible the schok phone me and my wife had it broke almost right away and the warranty didn't get me anywhere there is the nokia 225 which tag can filter and it costs around $50 but I don't have any info how good of a phone it is, the sunbeam as I mentioned earlier is extremely junky and not reliable keeps on crashing and breaks easily and very not sturdy needs better firmware and to be made more sturdy built, the NUU phone is less then $100 and it is volte compatible and is also cdma compatible BUT it is EXTREMELY slow and u have to wait like 2 seconds after u press a button something should happen and as I use to say when I had it that on top of all its problems it also has the fault that it comes with whatsapp built in to the phone

          moshe1 the kosher phones like fig sunbeam or f30 the adb is completely blocked? No way to side load?

          Tag said they will tag the cat s22 and that is a solid phone but very bulky

              About adb I don't know but I think it's not a regular android system the sunbeam

              • FlippyLevel 6 - Platinum Elite Member

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                doctorman They both run android but are both securely blocked, even with ADB.

                    Flippy That kind of blocking the ADB could be done by a us to other phones or is that phone specific.
                    is there an XDA thread perhaps about it?

                      4 months later

                      back to this after trying few more filters (google family link) which were good till the kids learn to go around them lol
                      actually bought the TCL Flip 2 in the promo and tracfone cancelled and did not honor the deal
                      I am between CAT s22 (60$) and TCL Flip 2 (30$)
                      does TCL Flip 2 work well on Tmobile after unlocked?

                      no real progress on S22 on the site?

                        • FlippyLevel 6 - Platinum Elite Member

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                          doctorman actually bought the TCL Flip 2 in the promo and tracfone cancelled and did not honor the deal

                          Can you clarify what you mean by this?

                            tracfone had an ebay deal for 20$ for the tcl flip 2 with 1 year of service 1200min
                            they cancelled orders after 1 to 2 weeks of waiting instead of shipping thema nd raised the price to 70$.

                            anyway Iam going back and forth

                            TCL Flip2 : PRO: smaller, cheaper , easily koshered
                            con: 2mp camera

                            S22: Pro: 2 camera 5mp and 2mp, touch screen, very strong , water resistant
                            con: bigger , android 11 go harder to filter and limit

                              doctorman Why would you not go for the Flip 2? Is there anything that you specifically want from the CAT?

                                  FliphoneBochur

                                  contacts sync with google as back up
                                  google parental control app to show location of the device
                                  touch screen
                                  rugged phone
                                  all very tempting for s22

                                      doctorman So there's no real filter (at least here, I don't know what TAG has) for that phone. I think a simple app uninstallation of the browser, play store, and whatever else you want to get off would suffice, but a factory reset would bring them back. That's usually a deterrent for most people. Why don't you call up TAG and ask if they could filter it? Please respond back here what they say.

                                          FliphoneBochur we mentioned above, tag can filter it
                                          but google parental control family link and removal of apps should do the job