I would like to use the sim from Hello mobile which I believe runs on Tmobile MVNO in NY region. I am techy enough and do not prefer a subscription-based filter unless you the pros think is the way to go. I had the kids on a smartphone with Kaspersky parental control app but they got too smart and kept going around it after crashing the filter app in android. as the highschool time is coming up they need an actual Flip phone for school. I was wondering if the Kyocera DuraXe is recommended. I need it to have a good receiption and does the phone job well . and it would be awesome if it is waterproof and have good camera . also was interested in the CAT s22 as that is also water proof but what filter would work well... if there is a good thread on the comparison for these the link would be appreciated. please post your recomendations.

[unknown] you can get the Gentech or MB Smart filters on the Cat S22. Both great filters which you can't just crash to bypass

lgexalter1 do I need Tag to install those or can I get them myself online? there is no way to buy it upfront right? it is a subscription monthly?

lgexalter1 I have to see if the schools allow the CAT s22 since it is still full phone inside... if I need more basic phone is DuraXe the choice?

[unknown] don't personally have experience with Kyocera phones

[unknown] MB Smart can only be done by TAG afaik. Gentech has a store in Lakewood

the duraxv is very good phone its fast and and better texting than the extreme

doctorman DurXE seems to be a bit hard to find unlocked. Have you found any yet that you are considering? Its an okay phone but I like the DuraXV (verizon version) much better.

Flippy the Verizon version works well on TMobile?

doctorman No. Your only option would be either Dura XE E-4710 or DuraXV Extreme E-4810. which I always refer to as the "DuraXE and Dura XV Extreme" respectively. What I was trying to say it that even though the DuraXV E-4610 and E-4710 have very similar hardware, the software on the XE is different enough that just because people like the XV, not necessarily will they like the XE. That doesn't mean its bad though. I didn't do enough long-term testing to know how it would be under daily use.

doctorman If you want to block all internet access the filters are one time fee, if you want filtered internet then there will be a monthly fee. If you're giving it to a high school kid I'd definitely say to only use secure filters from TAG / Gentech, or a pre-filtered phone like the Sunbeam f1 series or FIG

need advice on phone for highschool kids

doctorman

moshe1 the kosher phones like fig sunbeam or f30 the adb is completely blocked? No way to side load?

Tag said they will tag the cat s22 and that is a solid phone but very bulky

Flippy

doctorman They both run android but are both securely blocked, even with ADB.

moshe1

About adb I don't know but I think it's not a regular android system the sunbeam

doctorman

Flippy That kind of blocking the ADB could be done by a us to other phones or is that phone specific.
is there an XDA thread perhaps about it?

doctorman

back to this after trying few more filters (google family link) which were good till the kids learn to go around them lol
actually bought the TCL Flip 2 in the promo and tracfone cancelled and did not honor the deal
I am between CAT s22 (60$) and TCL Flip 2 (30$)
does TCL Flip 2 work well on Tmobile after unlocked?

no real progress on S22 on the site?

Flippy

doctorman actually bought the TCL Flip 2 in the promo and tracfone cancelled and did not honor the deal

Can you clarify what you mean by this?

doctorman

tracfone had an ebay deal for 20$ for the tcl flip 2 with 1 year of service 1200min
they cancelled orders after 1 to 2 weeks of waiting instead of shipping thema nd raised the price to 70$.

anyway Iam going back and forth

TCL Flip2 : PRO: smaller, cheaper , easily koshered
con: 2mp camera

S22: Pro: 2 camera 5mp and 2mp, touch screen, very strong , water resistant
con: bigger , android 11 go harder to filter and limit

FliphoneBochur

doctorman Why would you not go for the Flip 2? Is there anything that you specifically want from the CAT?

doctorman

FliphoneBochur

contacts sync with google as back up
google parental control app to show location of the device
touch screen
rugged phone
all very tempting for s22

FliphoneBochur

doctorman So there's no real filter (at least here, I don't know what TAG has) for that phone. I think a simple app uninstallation of the browser, play store, and whatever else you want to get off would suffice, but a factory reset would bring them back. That's usually a deterrent for most people. Why don't you call up TAG and ask if they could filter it? Please respond back here what they say.

doctorman

FliphoneBochur we mentioned above, tag can filter it
but google parental control family link and removal of apps should do the job

FliphoneBochur

doctorman So what's the problem? I still don't understand.

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