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    14 days later

    i seem to have found a very similar phone to the second generation one that they are selling.

    If you type in 4G MTK6739 Flip Phone Gsm Double Screen Mobile Phone Large Keyboard And Large Bettery Android Cell Phones to allibaba it should come up

      Amped the battery capacity is the same, the processor is slightly different but over all there are a lot of similarities like the fact that neither have a 3.5 mm jack which i think is ridiculous for a flip phone...

        Amped and they both use the exact same stock wallpaper on the front screen. however i am noticing some differences between them but the similarities are too striking to be a coincidence

        also the screen sizes are exactly the same dimensions including the outer one but the camera placement is a bit different. not sure but it seems promising

        also i think i found the body that was used for the original fig flip phone too. not that it matters...

        • FlippyLevel 6 - Platinum Elite Member

          Amped Thats sort of the way these things work. People find an existing model/mold/idea that a factory makes, and customize it to meet their requirements. Thats how most electronics work these days, especially from smaller brands. It's really hard to make a mold from scratch, and even if someone did, the factory could always go and sell it publicly on Alibaba...

            Flippy so you think that they did create it from scratch and now the manufacturer is selling it separately?

            also i just saw earlier that there was a question of whether they created it from scratch or not and i was just trying to show that they didn't. im pretty well versed in the manufacturing and backend of creating phones. i learned a lot when i worked with OnePlus.

              • FlippyLevel 6 - Platinum Elite Member

                Amped I actually think they did not, just trying to say that even if they did, its possible for it to show up later because thats just what the factories do. If they did it from scratch it would look a bit better hopefully, and not like another chinese knockoff.

                Amped i learned a lot when i worked with OnePlus.

                Thats interesting, what did you do for OnePlus?

                  Flippy its possible for it to show up later because thats just what the factories do

                  this is precisely what happened to fig many times as I know personally, many mock ups that they designed from scratch have surfaced on the market, these Chinese factories have no concept of contract and private client dealings.

                  Flippy I beta tested phones for them under NDA before they were publicly released

                  6 days later

                  actually I went digging around a bit and came across those same phones on alibaba and struck up a chat with the manufacturer, Shenzhen Qimei Electronic co ltd, and I got into a chat with an employee named Jianfeng Li("Jeff Li"), and asked a few questions.

                  One of those were of I can receive a sample of the Alibaba 70$ phone with a higher resolution. He says sure and sends me this picture . I notice that his thumb and index fingers are covering something, namely the fig logo. But he gave it away by not covering the app that says FIG messenger. I tell him that this looked like a product ordered by FIG. He replys yes and quickly deletes the picture,but I already got a screenshot in. He asked my how I knew and I told him from the FIG messenger app. He then says that they (the company) are developing the 2nd gen of fig devices.

                  I proned for more details, asked if I could buy a sample, and he said that the "shape mold and pcba are all customized by FIG so they cannot sell them to other customers", even though he told me before that they designed alot of shapes and FIG chose one of them. Anyway, I digress.

                  He then posted a few images of a few colors that I could order.Some of them have some sort of blur applied in certain parts, probably to cover the FIG logo, lol. Although none of the prototypes have a back camera, they all resemble the fig phone, even the middle button under the center button (unlike the photo he shared which actually was prototype, or final,not sure).

                  I got a little friendly with him, and he asked if I was Jewish, and I said yes, and he shared some more info. He told me that the Hebrew keyboard input was difficult to implement, and he also told me that their company developed the custom android os on the phone and disabled app installation, and fig supplied the apk which I'm assuming he meant the fig messaging app, and they integrated it into the system.

                    • FlippyLevel 6 - Platinum Elite Member

                      lgexalter1 "Born kosher" is pretty misleading, however it happened. Its android with a block. Anything running android is "born android", and then locked up.

                      lgexalter1 I guess born kosher would mean that the company designed the aosp build themselves and installed it on the phone m'tchilah. Here FIG did not - they just told the company what to do (block the browser,block installation of apps) like what you could do with ADB yourself.