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does volume say everything
or its also the quality of sound and
call quality

a-one Just curious, what did they respond? Or did they?

    as well durability and resistance to get break by falls by humidify ;
    punkt is done by a swiss company known for doing quality
    can any one come in with experienced both the punkt and the sunbeam ??
    or may have a relative or friend who did ?

      • FlippyLevel 6 - Platinum Elite Member

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        star I have plenty of experience with both but I am not sure what exactly you are asking...

        • star replied to this.

          I know someone who has the fig kosher phone, he was using it with Pure Talk (an AT&T mvno), it suddenly stopped working last week, it just says "no service". [Login to see the link] mentioned that AT&T stopped supporting these phones, would that affect the mvnos also, or would anyone know what else the issue might be?

            • FlippyLevel 6 - Platinum Elite Member

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              Techgen Yes it's because of the ATT "3g" Shutdown which is really almost a "non AT&T-branded phone" Shutdown. Even 4glte phones were were shutdown. They shut anything not on the [Login to see the link] . This DID also affect the MVNO's

                Flippy Oh wow, thats bad if all ATT mvnos only work on ATT phones. Would you recommend getting a verizon mvno for this phone or it will also end up being unsupported when they do their 4g switch, and its best just to get another phone?

                  • FlippyLevel 6 - Platinum Elite Member

                    Techgen Verizon has a bunch of issues on the fig, ranging from not accepting the imei, intermittently disconnecting from the network and poor service in some areas. verizon's 3g shutdown should NOT affect this phone as it is not a CDMA phone, but verizon can choose to shut it anyway because it is not a supported IMEI. Best bet with this phone (if you are already stuck with it...) is T-mobile, albeit with poorer than normal reception in many areas

                      Flippy I guess we can't expect FIG to refund all the phones...
                      Is T-mobile worse on these phones, or you're just saying they have bad coverage in some areas like all T-mobile phones?

                      • FlippyLevel 6 - Platinum Elite Member

                        Worse than other T-Mobile phones...
                        And why shouldn't they refund all phones?

                          • a-oneLevel 3 - Gold Member

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                            Jumptoheaven they told me that I could to download from the play store a filter, and i asked them if they don't have a built in kosher software, so they said that this software is custom and only if i make a bulk order, that's what fig did he made a bulk order and they made a custom kosher software for him.

                            I downloaded from the play store the netspark filter, [Login to see the link] and it crashed the phone so i turned of the phone and when i turned on the phone i got an eror that the system ui has stopped and had a black screen and wasn't able to do anything with it but i was still able to connect it to ADB so i uninstalled the netspark filter but it didn't help me and it still said that the system UI has stopped so i made adb reboot recovery and i got to the menu to reset it and i reset the phone then it was in chinnese so i followed a video to change it to English and then i got an error that the Google play store is not certified and I couldn't install any apps so i chat with them and they gave me instructions how to add back Google service and now I'm looking for a filter that could block the internet

                            So if someone wants to install the netspark filter on this phone should know that it could damage the phone and I was luckely able to remove it and not always will be a way to remove it if the phone has a black screen

                              • TtechyLevel 3 - Gold Member

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                                a-one wow! You had some experience.

                                would you be able to share with me the instructions to add back the google service.
                                Thank you so much!

                                  • FlippyLevel 6 - Platinum Elite Member

                                    techy Or if possible, would you post the steps here? otherwise I will provide my email too, thanks

                                    a-one Please post the insructions here in a new thread if possible, these kind of guides can be really helpful to people.

                                      • TechgenLevel 6 - Platinum Elite Member

                                      Flippy Ok thanks for the info. I just figured they won't be able to afford to refund all their phones, and its not technichally their fault, I guess it doesn't hurt to try. Thankfully I myself have the xp3 which is still approved. I noticed that the sunbeam orchid is not on the list, does that mean that those stopped working with ATT also?

                                        • FlippyLevel 6 - Platinum Elite Member

                                          Techgen I don't think they CAN refund, But I definitely think they SHOULD, based on the fact that they were selling it primarily as an AT&T phone, (as it has issues with all other networks), they were aware of the impending problem when it was released, and told all their customers not to worry and that they won't have an issue, even when AT&T was calling (alarm bells ringing?...) those customers and warning them that the phone won't be supported...

                                          As for the Sunbeam, for some reason it is the only phone AFAIK that is still working even though its not on the list. They probably just didn't make a fully comprehensive list, and in reality, the Sunbeam is Volte, so it makes sense that it works.

                                          • a-oneLevel 3 - Gold Member

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                                            Apps4Flip-Admin 1.Open the Google certification page [Login to see the link] in a browser on a PC in one tab , and a converter from hex values to decimal in another tab [Login to see the link]

                                            1. Device ID shows the two values we need: Android Device ID and Google Service Framework (GSF). We convert these values to decimal and copy the result from the Decimal Number field. We register the copied number on the google certification page. Both values (Android Device ID and Google Service Framework (GSF)) must be registered.
                                            2. We clean the caches of Google play services and play store. We reboot the phone.
                                            3. As a result, you get completely working Google services.