To start out... By the time I finished writing this post, these threads were locked, so sorry mods for opening a new one, but I can't contain myself.

A note to everyone: I am [Login to see the link]. There is so much pushback, but that isn't making me nervous about admitting. On the contrary, I am going to stop hiding.

I joined these forums last year, knowing very little. I started out asking a few stupid questions, but I have grown a lot since then. It's certainly been a great ride. I try to help people out, and at the same time, learn things myself.

Skipping through much of the story: In the summer Apps4Flip made some updates to the forum, including adding the ratings. I thought it was so cool, and aimed to get a nice spot. I did that by offering advice, helping out, making guides, giving answers, explanations, modifying apps, making tools, developing, etc. And I earned my spot in 1st. I was struggling to keep it for a little, until I got a strong enough hold on my points to not worry about it. I didn't upvote my own posts though. I worked hard on it and earned it fair.

Once in a while if I saw that people were liking their posts to get ahead, I would quietly downvote them back. But this past week, some accounts got way too far ahead, like 300 more. So I created a better way of doing it automatically. And another member started doing it. And it was getting so out of hand. Which is when I made the account, and asked chat gpt to write me a nice post about it 🙂 .

Am I going too crazy about likes? Am I being immature? Am I being mean? Maybe. But these likes are what motivate me and many others to help out here. And when people ruin the system, it ruins our feelings. Maybe I am just reacting as an immature teenager... But I am not hiding from anyone. I am being straight up with people.

Somebody warned me before posting this: Don't do it. You have a good name, don't ruin it. But I am ready to ruin it if that's necessary, because I am not fake, and I don't hide from people. If everyone downvotes my posts as protests, fine. No problem. I have the tools to give myself as many votes as I need.... And I WONT USE IT. My philosophy is: If I offer quality help, advice, and services for free, it will be very hard for people to boycott me.

Many of you don't know (but some of you do) about some of the battles I've fought to protect Apps4Flip from Higher up powers who abuse their trust and try to shut us down. I will continue to serve this amazing community, whether I am boycotted or not (well, I think I will at least). I have spoken to some people and had conversation with some of the people I downvoted, and while I hope this doesn't take away our friendship, I am being transparent now, realizing the effects it can have.

Now, for all the people who were downvoted too far, please email me [Login to see the link], and tell me what number is fair to give you, and I will put your posts back up.

Thank you guys for reading the whole thing 🙂.

    Biden2020prez lol, its funny cuz when I first saw this thread its a picture of President Trump and the title was "it was me", I'm thinking to myself trump would never admit a mistake hahaha, but then the name is BidenPrez so I'm like well Biden wouldn't need to admit a mistake, we all know when he makes one lololol.

    Bus seriously, I understand the idea, it was good intentions, just maybe the implementation was a little wild, but whatever it is thanks for all that u do....i would want to ask you mechilah for making negative comments about the fact that you had extra time to do this, i was reacting but it might of hurt u, pls forgive me.

    ps by the way make sure to use chat gtp wisely, cuz she seem to make you say things in a tone you might of not said yourself. lol its good to use if your angry at a company, or the likes.

        MXRJR All good. I am honestly not so upset about the negative feedback. It isnt surprising.

        Yes, it was a wild way, and there are better approaches I could have used. But you know how I am when I get my hands on powerful code...

        I just thought it was funny because you were telling me about having free time, and meanwhille it was automated. Sorry for making it such a big deal... as of now I am only 1/2 sorry, so maybe I should apologize again later.



        MXRJR lol, its funny cuz when I first saw this thread its a picture of President Trump and the title was "it was me", I'm thinking to myself trump would never admit a mistake hahaha, but then the name is BidenPrez so I'm like well Biden wouldn't need to admit a mistake, we all know when he makes one lololol.

        One thing I will say is that... I still don't know if I consider it a mistake. but I hope we can agree to disagree about that. It certainly wasn't the most professional or mature way to deal with it though.

        Thank you for replying, I appreciate your feedback and response.

            Biden2020prez I just want to express my admiration for what you just did. It takes a lot of courage - especially for somebody of your stature with the tools to really do whatever you want to get up there and admit to it all. THAT'S A KIDDUSH HASHEM!
            Shkoyach for all you do. I'm proud to be part of this forum!

                • ReifamLevel 4 - Platinum Member

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                  Biden2020prez 1st of all THANK YOU for being such a dedicated member, and always trying to uplift this forum.
                  Even though you were being bashed out, you still did the right thing and revealed who you are. You are a good model of who a true Ben Torah really is. and I

                  FliphoneBochur just want to express my admiration for what you just did. It takes a lot of courage

                  Thanks for all you do!!!!!!

                      Just wondering, why when some users like something it shows publicly, while other users' likes don't? I don't see a setting for it. Does it have anything to do with points or rankings?

                        • TechgenLevel 6 - Platinum Elite Member

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                        Biden2020prez Hey, it's very brave of you to come out in the open, I agree 100% with your feelings [I used to joke that this new guy on the forum already has more votes than me because he posts so many responses 😉 - at the time that the ratings were introduced to you, I already had a bunch of points, because although it looked like they added a new feature, it was really an old feature that was taken away and reinstated, so only those who were on the forum from early on, and already had points, still had points right when it was brought back]
                        And I agree that the self upvoting has gotten completly out of hand, and defeats the purpose. However, I don't think that [Login to see the link] was a solution to the problem [I don't think you "destroyed" the forum as some ppl have been accusing you of, it was messed up before] I'm still not sure what a good solution would be, maybe even a similar bot put in place by the admins would work.
                        But at the very least I think you have brought awareness to the problem, and hopefully people will see how immature and counterproductive such actions are, and will refrain from doing so in the future.
                        Thanks for all your good work, and keep using your talents for good things!

                            • TechgenLevel 6 - Platinum Elite Member

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                            FliphoneBochur It's a strange system, but it seems that pressing the like button will say that you like the post, but wont give points, and the thumbs up / thumbs down will give points, but won't say who gave it.

                              Techgen And I agree that the self upvoting has gotten completly out of hand, and defeats the purpose. However, I don't think that [Login to see the link] was a solution to the problem

                              I think it sort of solved the problem, it just introduced some other issues, (including issues of people being negative 1000).

                              Techgen [I don't think you "destroyed" the forum as some ppl have been accusing you of, it was messed up before]

                              I don't think these forums are messed up. I think it's a wonderful place for flip phone users to connect and learn. Many people who try to make money off flip phone users try hard to shut it down. To me, that shows how successful are forum is. Yes, there are issues, but these forums are very stron. One of the biggest compliments I've gotten, was a response to a tool I made:

                              Helix_X_Dome Heh.... Idk if this is muttar. you are taking away parnassah from companies that charge 40$+ to do this lol.

                              Anyways, about this idea:

                              Techgen maybe even a similar bot put in place by the admins would work.

                              I think there is a lack of leadership coming from the admins, who are a little busy, so I see slim chances of that happening.

                                        • TechgenLevel 6 - Platinum Elite Member

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                                        Biden2020prez I didn't mean the forum was messed up before, of course it's a great place, I meant the points were messed up before by ppl upvoting themselves. I just used the term forum because that's what people were accusing you of.
                                        And yes the admins are busy but it seems they've taken note and are working on it. Hopefully something can be worked out.

                                          • FlippyLevel 6 - Platinum Elite Member

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                                            [Login to see the link] sort of stopped this whole issue but stuck everyone with their negatives even though there shouldn't be any negatives if there is no downvote...
                                            Can we request a fix?

                                            THE_SOMEONE He knew it was me also bc I posted something on biden2020prez then deleted it, and mod can see deleted stuff. But his point was you need to be careful before accusing people, because if you have no proof, you can get in trouble.

                                                Biden2020prez you are one of the only ones on this forums (except admins) who know how to right COLOR WORD'S and all that stuff good and you also said your not anything with apps4flip so i thought it proably be you (not the admins) and since i also saw that your main account wasnt active

                                                    It's not that hard.
                                                    It's a simple Google search!
                                                    I'm having way too much fun!